I'm glad you brought up the rev design. Over on another forum that I post on, this coin is bringing quite some negitive comments. While I think the Eagle that was used on German coinage during the time period is much nicer. I still like the rev. design on this Pattern. Which brings me to say this. What I like about this forum, is that, no one here makes a collector feel like a fool for posting or buying a coin that others do not like. I collect coins for the history they tell of the time period they represent. I do understand that Goetz had some werid designs on his medals and coins. But his designs reflected his out look at the time.There seems to be more historical minded collectors here on this forum. I'm glad I joined this forum.