World Premiere!

[cpm9ball]

Oh, and how would mine grade against the EF in the guide?  Just curious, I'm pretty sure the seller had mine listed as EF, too.

I'm no specialist on these, so if you quote me, I'll deny everything.

Yours is much, much nicer. XF!

[FilthyBroke]

Thanks.   If I can recall it, the seller's grading scale goes - P, G, F, VF, EF, MS, and UNC.  Is this the common grading scale for non-U.S. coins?  The seven-point scale I think I heard it called.... 

[BCNumismatics]

Thanks.   If I can recall it, the seller's grading scale goes - P, G, F, VF, EF, MS, and UNC.  Is this the common grading scale for non-U.S. coins?  The seven-point scale I think I heard it called....

FilthyBroke,
  'MS' isn't part of the 7 point grading scale,as that is what the slabbers use.I hate the grade 'BU',as it is next to impossible to find a coin strictly in 'BU' grade.

We use 'G','VG','F','VF','EF','Unc.',& both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof',even though both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof' aren't strictly speaking grades,but methods of striking.Yes,we don't use numbers to confuse people or to rip people off.

Aidan.

[FilthyBroke]

Thanks.   If I can recall it, the seller's grading scale goes - P, G, F, VF, EF, MS, and UNC.  Is this the common grading scale for non-U.S. coins?  The seven-point scale I think I heard it called....

FilthyBroke,
  'MS' isn't part of the 7 point grading scale,as that is what the slabbers use.I hate the grade 'BU',as it is next to impossible to find a coin strictly in 'BU' grade.

We use 'G','VG','F','VF','EF','Unc.',& both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof',even though both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof' aren't strictly speaking grades,but methods of striking.Yes,we don't use numbers to confuse people or to rip people off.

Aidan.

Well, this seller must have put their own twist on it, or are using a different standard, because those are the grades that they use.  Now, I've seen several different methods, and it gets confusing to shop the U.K. and France from here in the U.S.  as each seem to vary int heir grading.  This is why I need a good picture of the item before considering a purchase. 

Oh, and I don't believe that numbers are there to rip people off or confuse them, but more often it's the people using them to their advantage vs. a buyer's knowledge and experience.  That's why I'm here, to learn and absorb the knowledge and experiences of others.  


Now let's see more more World Premieres!!  I have one at the Post Office that I missed on Saturday, hope I can pick it up Monday and post pics.

[FilthyBroke]

And here it is -


James I gold hammered quarter laurel -

[cpm9ball]

Thanks.   If I can recall it, the seller's grading scale goes - P, G, F, VF, EF, MS, and UNC.  Is this the common grading scale for non-U.S. coins?  The seven-point scale I think I heard it called....

FilthyBroke,
  'MS' isn't part of the 7 point grading scale,as that is what the slabbers use.I hate the grade 'BU',as it is next to impossible to find a coin strictly in 'BU' grade.

We use 'G','VG','F','VF','EF','Unc.',& both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof',even though both 'Proof-like' & 'Proof' aren't strictly speaking grades,but methods of striking.Yes,we don't use numbers to confuse people or to rip people off.

Aidan.

Aidan, you forgot P - Poor and AU - Almost Uncirculated. In the US, MS & UNC are used interchangeably, but when a TPGS assigns a numerical grade to a coin, it is always expressed as MSxx.

Chris

[regandon]

And here it is -


James I gold hammered quarter laurel -

Very nice strike on that one.

[BCNumismatics]

FilthyBroke,
  That's one very nice piece of hammered English gold that you've got there.

English (as opposed to British) gold coins are very difficult to find,but not as difficult to find as Scots hammered gold coins are.

Yes,I do collect British Isles coins myself.

Chris,we never use 'Poor' as a grade over here in New Zealand,but 'AU' is only ever occasionally used.

What angers me about Krause sometimes,is when they give prices only in 'Unc.' &/or 'BU',but not in 'VF' downwards,it makes it impossible to work out prices when coins in the lower grades turn up.The classic case of this is with the American commemorative $1/2 from 1892 to 1954.We occasionally see the Columbian Exposition commemorative $1/2 over here,& in the bottom grades.

Aidan.

[cpm9ball]

FilthyBroke,
  That's one very nice piece of hammered English gold that you've got there.

English (as opposed to British) gold coins are very difficult to find,but not as difficult to find as Scots hammered gold coins are.

Yes,I do collect British Isles coins myself.

Chris,we never use 'Poor' as a grade over here in New Zealand,but 'AU' is only ever occasionally used.

What angers me about Krause sometimes,is when they give prices only in 'Unc.' &/or 'BU',but not in 'VF' downwards,it makes it impossible to work out prices when coins in the lower grades turn up.The classic case of this is with the American commemorative $1/2 from 1892 to 1954.We occasionally see the Columbian Exposition commemorative $1/2 over here,& in the bottom grades.

Aidan.

Aidan, you must keep in mind that if Krause tried to list the entire range of grades, the book would probably be three times larger than it is, and it's big enough already.

I have access to Numismedia values through NGC, so any time you need some prices, send me a message.

Chris

[FilthyBroke]

Whaaa...?  More jetons?!?   


Yep, here's two more that just arrived -


First, a little color on this 1860-79 silver jeton (I'll work on the pics)



Next, a resrike of a 1655 jeton, I believe this one was made in the mid-1850's, maybe as an anniverasary issue?