Credit for information below comes from NGC

(ORIGINS OF THE RAINBOW TONED BATTLE CREEK TONED MORGANS)

 

NGC CERTIFIES THE BATTLE CREEK COLLECTION OF RAINBOW TONED MORGAN DOLLARS

Posted on 6/6/2005

Eye appeal gets a star!

RELEASE UPDATED 2/12/2008

NGC is pleased to announce that it has graded the Battle Creek Collection, an original group of Morgan dollars 0406 battle1 smpossessing exceptional eye appeal. Included among this group are coins that represent the very finest toned pieces to come out of original mint bags that had not seen the light of day for many decades. Every coin is encapsulated with the pedigree Battle Creek Collection, and, even more significantly, each graded coin in the collection has received NGC's coveted star designation for superior eye appeal.

ORIGIN OF THE BATTLE CREEK COLLECTION

The coins of the Battle Creek Collection resided in ten $1,000 bags. Until March 1964, it was possible to redeem silver certificates with US silver dollar coins, and many collectors thus acquired original bags of Morgan dollars. The Battle Creek Collection bags were tagged with both original Philadelphia Mint tags and seals dated 1885 (2 bags), 1886 (2 bags), or 1887 (6 bags). Additional each had a supplementary tag from the Detroit Branch of the Chicago Federal Reserve bearing dates in the 1920's.

The bags had resided in the estate of a collector, and upon his passing his executor invited several coin dealers to make purchase offers on the group. The bags were sewn sealed, and dealers present were required to bid "blind," meaning they could not examine the coins prior to purchase. The bags were slit in their presence to prove that they did, in fact, contain silver dollars.

Dennis Steinmetz of Steinmetz Coin & Currency in Lancaster, PA, successfully purchased the coins. Thereafter, the bags were opened and tubed for submission to NGC at Engle's Coin Shop in Indianapolis, IN. Stienmetz, a full-time rare coin dealer since 1974, realized that he had purchased something special: "The coins were truly spectacular. There was no way to know that this was a toned dollar deal when I bought them."


0406 battle3bag smInterestingly, one bag of 1887 dollars contained a small number of 1904-O dated coins, and Steinmetz believes that these coins were added to a partial bag at the Federal Reserve bank in the 1920's. Steinmetz also kept the original bags and seals as a memento of this unusual group of coins. (Editor's Note: more photographs of bags and seals will be made available shortly as part of this release on the NGC website).

 

 

 

 

 

 

NGC CERTIFICATION OF THE BATTLE CREEK COLLECTION

The grading result also was indeed unusual. Of the 10,000 coins submitted, 1,359 were awarded the NGC star designation for extraordinary eye appeal. These stars were awarded to both rainbow toned coins and coins that exhibited other special features such as one-sided prooflike surfaces. Additionally, 247 coins possessing original color but grading below MS63 were also separated from the main group by NGC. At the time of grading, the NGC star designation was not assigned to coins grading below MS63, and these coins were graded as Brilliant Uncirculated.

NGC grades a number of original bag deals of Morgan dollars every year, and has graded over 2 million Morgan dollars in its 20-year history. Although the dates and grades represented in the collection were in a general sense common, never before had NGC encountered such a great abundance of coins with exceptional eye-appeal from a single group of ten original bags.

The 1,606 coins with special attributes were thus segmented. Owing to the spectacular richness of the hoard, the submitter requested a special pedigree for the coins awarded star designations. He suggested Battle Creek Collection because of the geographic origins of the coins. The 8,000+ remaining coins were returned encapsulated without special recognition.

BATTLE CREEK COLLECTION CENSUS

Date BU MS63* MS64* MS65* MS66*
1885   75 83 64 24
1885 PL   1 2      
1885 DPL   1          
1886 67 172 185 99 26
1886 PL   2 8 5  
1886 DPL   2 3 1  
1887 180 239 201 133 24
1904-O   5 2 1 1

 

 

 

 

 

 

At the time of grading, Mark Salzberg, NGC Chairman, commented: "The real significance of this collection is the sheer density of spectacular color seen on coin after coin. To create such a myriad of vibrant and diverse tones required ideal storage conditions." Salzberg further comments that, "We've seen hundreds and hundreds of original dollar bags without seeing the quality and richness of color seen on these coins. A group like this won't come up again soon." Mark Salzberg personally served as grading finalizer for each of the coins from the Battle Creek Collection.

The vibrant patina that results from storage in original mint bags is most often referred to by 0406 battle2 smnumismatists as "bag toning." For a coin to tone, it must have rested near the canvas fabric of the bag, which in turn needed to be stored in a stable environment that fostered its development. Bag toned coins can display intense iridescent colors that include every shade in the rainbow; these so-called "rainbow toned" coins, which show varying bands of color, are much sought after by collectors. If a coin rests partially atop another, dramatic arcs of color can result in a pattern called "crescent toning." Among the most desirable bag toning formations that can occur are "textile toned" coins which incorporate the intricate woven pattern of the canvas bag within the multicolor patina of the coin. Coins from the Battle Creek Collection include all these possible iterations of bag toning.

Superior Galleries of Beverly Hills was selected to auction the Battle Creek Collection. The coins were sold in a series of four auctions in 2005 and early 2006. At the time of the first sale, Paul Song, Vice President of Superior Auctions stated, "We are very excited to be able to offer this collection to the public. As toned coins go, the Battle Creek Collection has color and eye appeal overall much above any other dollar hoard we have seen." In addition to the images displayed in this release, Superior Galleries maintains an auction archive on their website, www.sgbh.com, where the coins can still be seen.

Want to see more images? The Battle Creek Collection of Morgan Silver Dollars.

 

Credit for information below comes from NGC

(ORIGINS OF THE RAINBOW TONED
BATTLE CREEK TONED MORGANS)

 

NGC CERTIFIES THE BATTLE CREEK COLLECTION
OF RAINBOW TONED MORGAN DOLLARS

Posted on 6/6/2005

Eye appeal gets a star!

RELEASE UPDATED 2/12/2008

NGC is pleased to announce that it has graded the Battle Creek Collection, an original group of Morgan dollars 0406 battle1 smpossessing exceptional eye appeal. Included among this group are coins that represent the very finest toned pieces to come out of original mint bags that had not seen the light of day for many decades. Every coin is encapsulated with the pedigree Battle Creek Collection, and, even more significantly, each graded coin in the collection has received NGC's coveted star designation for superior eye appeal.

ORIGIN OF THE BATTLE CREEK COLLECTION

The coins of the Battle Creek Collection resided in ten $1,000 bags. Until March 1964, it was possible to redeem silver certificates with US silver dollar coins, and many collectors thus acquired original bags of Morgan dollars. The Battle Creek Collection bags were tagged with both original Philadelphia Mint tags and seals dated 1885 (2 bags), 1886 (2 bags), or 1887 (6 bags). Additional each had a supplementary tag from the Detroit Branch of the Chicago Federal Reserve bearing dates in the 1920's.

The bags had resided in the estate of a collector, and upon his passing his executor invited several coin dealers to make purchase offers on the group. The bags were sewn sealed, and dealers present were required to bid "blind," meaning they could not examine the coins prior to purchase. The bags were slit in their presence to prove that they did, in fact, contain silver dollars.

Dennis Steinmetz of Steinmetz Coin & Currency in Lancaster, PA, successfully purchased the coins. Thereafter, the bags were opened and tubed for submission to NGC at Engle's Coin Shop in Indianapolis, IN. Stienmetz, a full-time rare coin dealer since 1974, realized that he had purchased something special: "The coins were truly spectacular. There was no way to know that this was a toned dollar deal when I bought them."


0406 battle3bag smInterestingly, one bag of 1887 dollars contained a small number of 1904-O dated coins, and Steinmetz believes that these coins were added to a partial bag at the Federal Reserve bank in the 1920's. Steinmetz also kept the original bags and seals as a memento of this unusual group of coins. (Editor's Note: more photographs of bags and seals will be made available shortly as part of this release on the NGC website).

 

 

 

 

NGC CERTIFICATION OF THE BATTLE CREEK COLLECTION

The grading result also was indeed unusual. Of the 10,000 coins submitted, 1,359 were awarded the NGC star designation for extraordinary eye appeal. These stars were awarded to both rainbow toned coins and coins that exhibited other special features such as one-sided prooflike surfaces. Additionally, 247 coins possessing original color but grading below MS63 were also separated from the main group by NGC. At the time of grading, the NGC star designation was not assigned to coins grading below MS63, and these coins were graded as Brilliant Uncirculated.

NGC grades a number of original bag deals of Morgan dollars every year, and has graded over 2 million Morgan dollars in its 20-year history. Although the dates and grades represented in the collection were in a general sense common, never before had NGC encountered such a great abundance of coins with exceptional eye-appeal from a single group of ten original bags.

The 1,606 coins with special attributes were thus segmented. Owing to the spectacular richness of the hoard, the submitter requested a special pedigree for the coins awarded star designations. He suggested Battle Creek Collection because of the geographic origins of the coins. The 8,000+ remaining coins were returned encapsulated without special recognition.

BATTLE CREEK COLLECTION CENSUS

Date BU MS63* MS64* MS65* MS66*
1885   75 83 64 24
1885 PL   1 2      
1885 DPL   1          
1886 67 172 185 99 26
1886 PL   2 8 5  
1886 DPL   2 3 1  
1887 180 239 201 133 24
1904-O   5 2 1 1

 

 

 

 

 

 

At the time of grading, Mark Salzberg, NGC Chairman, commented: "The real significance of this collection is the sheer density of spectacular color seen on coin after coin. To create such a myriad of vibrant and diverse tones required ideal storage conditions." Salzberg further comments that, "We've seen hundreds and hundreds of original dollar bags without seeing the quality and richness of color seen on these coins. A group like this won't come up again soon." Mark Salzberg personally served as grading finalizer for each of the coins from the Battle Creek Collection.

The vibrant patina that results from storage in original mint bags is most often referred to by 0406 battle2 smnumismatists as "bag toning." For a coin to tone, it must have rested near the canvas fabric of the bag, which in turn needed to be stored in a stable environment that fostered its development. Bag toned coins can display intense iridescent colors that include every shade in the rainbow; these so-called "rainbow toned" coins, which show varying bands of color, are much sought after by collectors. If a coin rests partially atop another, dramatic arcs of color can result in a pattern called "crescent toning." Among the most desirable bag toning formations that can occur are "textile toned" coins which incorporate the intricate woven pattern of the canvas bag within the multicolor patina of the coin. Coins from the Battle Creek Collection include all these possible iterations of bag toning.

Superior Galleries of Beverly Hills was selected to auction the Battle Creek Collection. The coins were sold in a series of four auctions in 2005 and early 2006. At the time of the first sale, Paul Song, Vice President of Superior Auctions stated, "We are very excited to be able to offer this collection to the public. As toned coins go, the Battle Creek Collection has color and eye appeal overall much above any other dollar hoard we have seen." In addition to the images displayed in this release, Superior Galleries maintains an auction archive on their website, www.sgbh.com, where the coins can still be seen.

Want to see more images? The Battle Creek Collection of Morgan Silver Dollars.

 

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Steve writes.............

Before I get to my experiences as a new/novice collector and give you some advice from my experiences, I’d like to share with you how I became a numismatist.

In 1997 my grandmother gave me her coin collection. Her collection consisted of some very nice circulated pieces that she pulled from bank bags she looked through along with mint purchased sets and commemoratives. At the time I had only a passing interest in coins and upon gaining possession of the collection, I went out and bought a red book to see what some coins where worth. After looking through the collection and pulling out the more expensive coins, I then went through the Whitman albums that where molding and pulled all the coins out and put them away. I was lucky enough to have several old bank safes to put the coins in, so all the coins where locked away.

Fast forward to Feb 2006, and my interest in coins became great enough that I started going to the bank to search rolls of every denomination and put together some sets. It was also at this time my 5 year old daughter gained interest in coins, but that is another story. When I finally became a numismatist, I was separated from my collection by 600 miles. I moved away out of state and left the coins with my parents in the safes. During this time when I visited my parents I would dig out my collection to do a better examination of my collection. I also started to go to some coin shows and frequented the local B&M. At first I knew almost nothing about “collecting” coins. I was a complete novice with a fairly nice collection bumbling around trying to learn things. It is these experiences that I would like share with all who are just getting into collection.

Some of the best things you can do as a beginning collector is get into a club if possible. I was not able to do this due to my area not having one, so I joined a forum sponsored by PCGS/Collectors Universe. I also was lucky enough to have a local B&M whose owner was a nice guy who I would have no problems sending people to. Knowledge is power, and some of the best knowledge is by experienced collectors. Just like computers, you will constantly be learning things in coin collecting. Another thing is to purchase a current Red Book, ANA Grading Standards 6th edition or newer, and the PCGS coin grading and counterfeit detection books. These 3 books where and still are invaluable to me just beginning. Read them often and study. I have reread chapters and sections several times.

Purchase a 5x and 10x quality loupe. Use the 10x for only looking for varieties and errors for the most part. Never start out looking at a coin with the 10x. Look at it with just your eye first, to get an overall feel, and then move to the 5x. If you see possible problems then look at it with the 10x.

DO NOT BUY ON IMPULSE AT FIRST. When starting out, do not dive right in and start purchasing expensive coins, which in my case was anything going for $300+. Stick to some more less expensive coins at first. The reason, at least for me, was the eagerness to add to the collection. The first coin I purchased was from the first show I ever went to. It was a 1925 Lexington/Concord commemorative in PCGS MS63 plastic. I REALLY wanted one of these coins, and I purchased one of the first ones I saw. It’s not a bad coin, but for the money I paid for it, I could have purchased a better coin in the same grade. REMEMBER, not all coins for a given grade are created equal, which is why you should not buy on impulse. Luckily I’m a fast learner and did not purchase too many coins before I figured this out.
Just when you think you know how to grade, go read your books again and examine more coins. I cannot stress this enough. I thought I had a good handle on grading and seeing defects on coins, that I took a dive and purchased a raw Sesquicentennial quarter eagle as an AU. I looked and looked at that coin and did not see any problems with it to stop it from being slabbed by PCGS. I was wrong the coin came back BB’d for cleaning. When I got the coin back, I looked at it again, and seen the tell tale signs on the coin that I missed the first time. Luckily I bought the coin from my local B&M and was able to get my money back from the coin, but at the same time upgraded it from him because he happened to have a PCGS MS63. DO NOT expect this to happen to you, I got EXTREMELY lucky. This example leads me to another point.

DO NOT PURCHASE RAW GOLD. As a new collector stay away from raw gold, stick to top tier TPG gold. Even experienced collectors will only purchase top tier TPG gold because of the heavy counterfeiting, dipping, stripping and every other ugliness that can be done to coins is seen in gold. I have several books on gold coins, and I just recently tried out a raw purchase. I have not sent the coin in yet, but if it comes back as anything but counterfeit, I am not out a lot. This purchase was my test purchase to test my knowledge. I suggest going slow at purchasing raw gold. Purchase as close to melt as possible to minimize your loss if it does not grade. Hopefully it will at least be genuine. You need to be VERY careful when dealing with gold since it grades differently.

Do not get into a rush at purchasing a coin. It takes time to start to learn what a PQ coin really looks like for the grade. Do not get discouraged at your purchases that you later discover aren’t quite up to your new standards, it’s part of the learning experience. This is why you should stick to cheaper coins at first, so your expensive purchased doesn’t leave a bad taste in your mouth when you look at it later and wished you purchased something else. Odds are, what you are looking for will be available later and will meet your growing standards for years to come.

Examine as many graded coins as possible at shows in person.

Use several different resources to figure out a coins value. Red Book and Coin Values are retail prices. Try to pay less than that. The Greysheet can be useful also, as it lists bid and ask prices that dealers normally trade at. Use only auctions such as Heritage and Ebay. The more data you collect, the better understanding you will have on what it’s worth when you go to buy. Remember, price guides are just that, GUIDES. They are not concrete.

HAVE FUN. Remember coin collection is a hobby and hobbies should be fun. Don’t stress if you cannot find any coins at a show. Hold out for what meets your standards and you will reap the rewards later.

I hope my experiences help you to avoid some of the mistakes I made. Happy collecting!

Sincerely,
Steve